samson2020 發表於 17-4-2008 17:19:45

好難!!chemical cell會考題~~help me>.<""~~~~~~~~~~aaaaaa

CE 2006 mc Q40
In the setup, the electron flow in such a direction that the conc. of the Cu2+ ion in the two beaker become the same.

the ans is : the mass of electrode X will decrease while the mass of Y increase

我唔明點解
1.咁樣仲會有electron flow..兩邊唔系一樣ga咩??conc.會影響到??
2.好咁佢有electron flow,但系點解會系由個copper electrode會lost電子?兩邊electrode一樣咁唔系應該睇個solution咩???

piyopiyo 發表於 17-4-2008 17:32:25

conc. 唔同,有potential difference掛

唔係...H 比 Cu 係ECS 高, Cu2+ is preferentially discharged
因為佢點都要放電子,所以係Cu 放

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Zend 發表於 17-4-2008 19:37:47

用少少A-level 扮下野先

Nernst equation

E = E' -RT/nF *lnK

對於Cu系統
Cu2+ +2e-<==>Cu
equilibrium K = 1/
由數學所知, ln1=0
foX= 1/ >1
ln X >0
so 0.02M 果個個E' 係細過standard condition 果個
所以佢會做anode(negative pole), loss of e-
係cathode(+ve) gain of e- of Cu2+ ->

samson2020 發表於 17-4-2008 20:47:55

請問條式入面E同E'分別代表d咩???佢地愈大愈姐系點??

Zend 發表於 17-4-2008 21:12:35

原帖由 samson2020 於 17-4-2008 12:47 發表 http://www1.nakuz.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif
請問條式入面E同E'分別代表d咩???佢地愈大愈姐系點??
成個電池的e.m.f = E cathode- Eanode

cathode - place for reduction
anode - place for oxidation

要一個cell run到, overall e.m.f 要大過0

E => e.m.f at a certain condition
E' => standard reduction potential.

無,我只係用來比較下邊個cell 有較大機會做cathode

samson2020 發表於 17-4-2008 22:36:13

咁E' 系條題目入面系constant??
跟住因為conc.唔同,所以出黎果個E就唔同???
current會由大E去細E????

Zend 發表於 17-4-2008 22:39:38

原帖由 samson2020 於 17-4-2008 14:36 發表 http://www.nakuz.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif
咁E' 系條題目入面系constant??
跟住因為conc.唔同,所以出黎果個E就唔同???
current會由大E去細E????
我看來講得太遠
都係算XD

samson2020 發表於 17-4-2008 23:08:13

原帖由 Zend 於 17-4-2008 22:39 發表 http://www1.nakuz.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif

我看來講得太遠
都係算XD
冇得算呀-.-次次問親野個個都系咁....:'(

piyopiyo 發表於 18-4-2008 07:29:02

原帖由 samson2020 於 17-4-2008 23:08 發表 http://www.nakuz.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif

冇得算呀-.-次次問親野個個都系咁....:'(
因為這裡的AL人喜歡以AL 方法回答...
而你問ge題目係無CE人識答,所以就係咁[]

octopus001 發表於 18-4-2008 13:00:46

我係CE人AR ...
AL人 D野真係勁.. 完成唔明講緊咩 0== []
答返問題
我係咁諗JA..
題目話左 In the setup, the electron flow in such a direction that the conc. of the Cu2+ ion in the two beaker become the same.

咁即係 X 放d Cu2+落水
             Y吃左d Cu2+from水
咁先可以balance到個concentration

咁即係X 放e-
          Y 接e-

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