octopus001 發表於 4-10-2008 14:01:39

[AL Chem] Atomic radius

each additional electron goes to same shell and is at approxomately the same distance from the nucleur, the replusion between electrons is relatively ineffective to cause an increases in atomic radius.

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Zend 發表於 4-10-2008 14:02:50

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Hinton 發表於 26-8-2009 03:34:12

本帖最後由 Hinton 於 26-8-2009 11:49 編輯

其實呢兩句說話表達既野
應該係關screening(shield) effect既事

點解題目有講relatively?
咁當然有對比啦
其實佢呢個repulsion between electrons
係同個attraction between nucleus and electrons作比較

如果個screening effect compares with effective nucleus charge
個screening係相對黎講 影響比較少

總結黎講
上面個兩句
提出atomic radius受兩個factors所影響
(1) screening effect(repulsion between electrons)
(2) effective nucleus charge

而(1)--->atomic radius增加
因為個排斥足以令 個d outermost shell electrons同個nucleus既distance increases
但(2)--->atomic radius減少
因為個吸引力 會令個d outermost shell electrons同個nucleus 既distance decreases

由於一個增加 一個減少
所以有必要比較兩者既影響
screening effect<<effective nucleus charge

所以當兩種因素並存既時候 我地會強調個atomic radius會減少左

Puppet 發表於 26-8-2009 17:11:38

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For the same period, the two factors should be shielding effect and nuclear charge.
The combined factor is effective nuclear charge.

L.K. 發表於 30-11-2009 02:11:55


提出atomic radius受兩個factors所影響
(1) screening effect(repulsion between electrons)
(2) effective nucleus charge

Hinton 發表於 26/8/2009 03:34 AM http://nakuz.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif
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effective nuclear charge=nuclear charge減screening effect

[S]【YU】 發表於 30-11-2009 18:27:29

本帖最後由 【YU】 於 30-11-2009 18:35 編輯

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For the same period, no. of inner electrons are the same, shielding effect is constant.

ENC = NC - sheiding

Magnitude of ENC and NC moves in the same direction by the same amount, both are OK for consideration. But to be more accurate, better use ENC to repesent the net attraction.

Atomic size = ENC(attraction by nucleus) vs screening(repulsion between electrons in the same shell)

Hinton 發表於 11-12-2009 13:48:54

ENC = the charges of the nucleus - the total charges of inner shells electrons
e.g.
enc of fluorine=+7(+9 - 2)
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